Manitoba Hospitality Industry Speaks

City Hall Meeting - Re: Smoking Ban June 11, 1999
North Committee Room, Council Building, 510 Main St., Winnipeg, Manitoba
9:00 a.m.

My name is Ron Ledohowski and I am the acting President for the Cabaret Alliance of Manitoba.

The Alliance represents all cabarets in Winnipeg, and in fact Manitoba. I also am one of the principals of Hospitality Corporation of Manitoba. Hospitality Corporation has been recognized as one of Canada’s 50 Best Managed Private Companies for two consecutive years by the Financial Post and Arthur Anderson. Leo, the President and C.E.O. of Hospitality Corporation, and also a member of this and other Associations will also speak.

Prior to his career with Hospitality Corporation, Leo was a university professor at both Carleton University and the University of Manitoba. Leo earned his Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Saskatchewan with a major in Economics. He continued at the University of Saskatchewan to complete a Bachelor of Commerce in Administration and Organizational Psychology. He then went on to a Masters in Business Administration degree in Accounting and Finance from the University of McMaster in Hamilton, Ontario. He is also a Certified Management Accountant with the Canadian Society of Management Accountants as well as a Certified Hotel Administrator with the American Hotel, Motel Educational Institute of the United States.

We are in a unique position with our properties at Hospitality Corporation to be members of three groups represented today, the Cabaret Alliance, the Manitoba Hotel Association, and the Manitoba Restaurant Association.

The Cabaret Alliance of Manitoba attempts to be an ear, for the membership, to the various governing bodies within our industry. We offer ourselves to the government as a proactive organization desirous of reaching common goals and objectives and solving issues of concern through open dialogue. The Alliance is also intended to be the collective voice of cabaret operators.

Our position is that a “total ban” or any increased restriction in the cabaret setting would be detrimental to the industry as experienced in other markets that have attempted to implement such an unenforceable ban. We also feel data regarding second hand smoke is inconclusive and is represented by faulty scientific procedures intended to arrive at a preconceived conclusion using smoking in general as an emotional “hot button”.

Our points are as follows:

1) Various review resource material available including (Additional copies of both books being shipped in and will be made available on request):

Passive Smoke: The EPA’s Betrayal of Science and Policy by Gio B. Gori and John C. Luik. (ISBN # 0-88975-196-X)

» Gio Batta Gori is along time defender of sound science as a foundation of fair public policy in health and safety, strong in his broad interests and experience in toxicology, epidemiology, nutrition, smoking and health, and environmental issues. He has lectured widely in North America, Europe, and many countries, appeared at several hearings in the U.S. Congress and foreign governments, and has advised corporations internationally. Born in Friuli Italy, he obtained a Doctorate in Biology after an education in the Classics. In the United States he first worked with the late Jonas Salk, followed by academic and industrial experiences. During a distinguished tenure at the National Cancer Institute he was deputy director of the Division of Cancer Cause and Prevention, and directed the Smoking and Health Program and the Diet and Cancer Program. He was recognized with the U.S. Public Health Service Superior Service Award for his achievements in smoking and health. Later he organized and directed the Franklin Institute Policy Analysis Center followed by his own Health Policy Center, a study and advisory group in health policy and regulation. He publishes extensively on scientific and policy matters.

» John C. Luik has taught philosophy and management studies at a number of universities, has been Senior Associate of the Niagara Institute with responsibility for its work in public policy and leadership and organizational change, and has worked as a consultant for governmental institutions, professional organizations and corporations in the United States, Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Latin America. He was educated on a Rhodes Scholarship at the University of Oxford where he obtained the BA, MA and D.Phil. degrees. His academic interests include public policy, particularly the use of science in policy and the question of government intervention to change risky behaviors, the ethics of advertising and business, and philosophy. He is a frequent media commentator and conference speaker and the author of numerous articles and several books. His most recent publications include: “The Assault on Pleasure: Health Promotion and Engineering the Human Soul”, “Pandora’s Box: The Dangers of Corrupted Science for Democratic Public Policy”, Smokescreen: Passive smoking and Public Policy, “I Can’t Help Myself: Addiction as Ideology”, Advertising and Markets, “Humanism”, and “The Problem of Permission for Pleasure in a Democratic Society”.

The following book is also referenced in the book mentioned above.

Science Without Sense: The Risky Business of Public Health Research by Steven Milloy (ISBN # 1-882577-34-5 Library of Congress Catalogue #95-72177)

» Steven J. Milloy is Director of Science Policy Studies at the National Environmental Policy Institute. Since 1990, Mr. Milloy has focused exclusively on environmental, risk and regulatory policy issues. Mr. Milloy holds a B.A. in natural sciences from The John Hopkins University, a Master of Health Sciences in biostatistics from The John Hopkins University School of Public Health, a Juris Doctorate from the University of Baltimore and a Master of Laws in securities regulation from the Georgetown University Law Center.

I will indicate some contradictions regarding the relative risk of ELF (Electromagnetic Fields) in comparison to ETS (Environmental Tobacco Smoke) within two separate publications from the EPA itself. Are the rules different for tobacco smoke?

One government agency criticizes another government agency on their invalid data collection and predetermined results. The Congressional Research Service raises questions about EPA’s “secondhand Smoke” Study.

In fact Dr. Kabat, who served on the EPA’s Science Advisory Board panel that reviewed all of the material on “second hand smoke” states that the “EPA is making a stretch when they call ETS a Class A carcinogen.” He went on to say he was against smoking “but exposure to secondhand tobacco smoke is unlike cigarette smoking.” Dr. Kabat’s own study on ETS was funded by the National Cancer Institute and published in the July 13,1995 issue of the Journal of Epidemiology. It found little association between ETS and the risk of lung cancer for women who lived with spouses who smoked.

1) Although it is convenient to say any ETS (Environmental Tobacco Smoke) is dangerous to the Health, all the chemicals (except Nicotine) are present in outdoor air due to automotive emissions etc. Scientifically and not generally, what true level is safe and what is not? If outdoor air is considered to be “clean air” what is the difference in levels between outdoor air and a Cabaret. We suggest the levels are so minute as to be both unregisterable on any mechanism of measurement. In fact, bad ventilation, regardless of tobacco smoke, is unhealthy. Are we talking more about a ventilation/air exchange issue? It would follow that a good influx of outdoor (or “Clean Air”) would help resolve any irrational concerns regarding second hand smoke and I would suggest current code exists regarding appropriate ventilation/air exchange.

2) Cigarette smoke is on the rise. But were you aware that its growth is specifically centered on the youth market. I would suggest that the issue is youth smoking. Are the Tobacco Ads converting kids? Or is it a reaction to all the publicity smoking is getting regarding movements to ban? Bars are age-restricted environments where adults make decisions whether to smoke or to enter.

3) Contrary to comments made by the anti-smoking lobby, the attempted and unenforceable ban on smoking in the Hospitality Industry has not worked. I attach various items including two recent studies done by CCG Consulting Group in Vancouver B.C. The report on Toronto is titled “An Analysis of Economic Consequences” and prepared for the Hotel and Restaurant Employees Union, Ontario Hotel and Motel Association, and the Ontario Restaurant Association. The second report is entitled “An Estimate of Economic Consequences” prepared for the Lower Mainland Hospitality Industry Group in Vancouver. Who better represents the industry than the various associations that represent the industry and its employees as well.

4) What are the tourism issues resulting from a ban? We have some input on this regarding the situation in Vancouver. Are local casinos being considered for the ban as well? We will attempt to expand on the topics presented as best as possible given the short lead-time. I apologize on the tardiness of this submittal, however, I came into information today, accidentally I might add, that a forum was being provided on this issue where not just Dr. Fast would be speaking.

Kindest Regards,
(signed)
Ron Ledohowski
President
Cabaret Alliance of Manitoba
RL/ll
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