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Correspondence received July 10, 2006


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Dear Forces,

I am a big fan of your website, and I just had to write to you.  I’ll keep it as brief as possible.  I read two recent articles. One was that there was legislation in California that they were trying to make smoking in a car illegal if children under 6 were also in the car.  The second article was about ASH’s position that smoking parents should be charged with child abuse if they smoke near or around their kids.  I was absolutely appalled after reading this.  You website had some great commentaries about this like equating parents who take their children to McDonald’s, or let their children have high cholesterol, or high fat, or high salt, or become couch-potatoes, should also be charged with child abuse. These are of course good points, but I just came up with the best one of all, that would show the anti’s just how idiotic they really are…This is the undeniable truth that your articles missed, and it’s GOOD-You ready!

If the goal of the Anti’s is to protect children from a supposed 20% increase in health problems from SHS, they have to also support the fact that child abuse can occur from parents who either  

1. Run red lights with children in the car
2. Get caught speeding with children in the car

If studies show, and CONCLUDE, that speeders have a 50% or HIGHER chance of getting killed or killing their passengers while driving, wouldn’t speeding with your children in the car warrant an investigation into child abuse? Wouldn’t being a chronic speeder also warrant a child abuse investigation?  Furthermore, shouldn’t the anti’s also support bans on anyone driving a car with over 1 at fault accident in a year or more than 2 speeding tickets.  If the anti’s really had the best interests of the children in mind, they would support legislation to ban chronic speeders or those involved in at-fault accidents from having any children in the car. 

They would also support legislation to charge them with child abuse.  Studies show that poor and careless driving is FAR MORE dangerous than SHS.  If the anti’s don’t also support citing child abuse for speeders, red light runners, and a parental driving ban of parents with over 1 at-fault accident in 3 years, then they are biased and their SHS arguments are null and void.

The answer is of course they wouldn’t support these types of bans/child abuse charges because it has the potential of actually getting child abuse charges AGAINST THEM directly, but then by default they would have to throw out the SHS bans too!  A police officer who cited a parent for smoking in the car with children could just as easily cite a parent, under the same line of thought, for speeding with a child.  The anti’s can’t have it both ways!  I would love to watch the anti’s squirm after hearing this point, because it is absolutely indisputable and directly related.  Feel free to take my idea and run with it.  I thought of it, but Forces can do a lot more with it…so take it please.

Regards,

Robert


Dear Robert,

It is nice to meet you. We can't do much better than you've done in drawing attention here to the logic the anti-smokers use.

As you are obviously aware, the antis are short-circuited when confronted with logic and honesty. You describe a problem that is in fact more genuine and greater than SHS; a problem that probably affects health more realistically than SHS does and  -- what you describe is certainly indisputable and directly related.

But, as you are no doubt aware by now as a regular FORCES follower, the antis insist on having it both ways. To understand their thrust against smoking, you have to think like a crook. So, let's see:

  • We have a blatant epidemiological fraud in our hands (the 20% increase in risk is false - to know how it is arrived at, read here).
  • We have similar manipulations on active smoking.
  • We have successfully trained people to hate other people (non smokers hating smokers).
  • As for all hate campaigns in history, we have a perfect, fraudulent apologism constructed for the purpose: smoking kills - active or passive, no matter.
  • We have an easy scapegoat for politicians and corrupt health authorities, who have become nothing more than politicians specialized in statistical health trash. Hysteria is created to distract people from real problems and attract politics and money to artificial problems for personal gain.
  • We have programs and ambitions for social engineering.
  • We have hundreds of millions of dollars in pharmaceutical money available to us only if we jump on board of the antismoking fraud programs and, in so doing, open the market for pharmaceutical products. That is why Big Pharma finances antismoking trash in the first place.
  • We have millions, billions of dollars available in public funds - either stolen from the bent-over tobacco industry or from the gullibility of citizens and governments, once again conned by the epidemiological frauds promoted by corrupt health authorities.
  • All we have to do is persecute smokers to get all of that.

Why then should anyone care about the real risks that careless driving poses to children? Show a few million dollars and they'll do that too! They are whores for hire, and fanatics in search of a fat bank account! That's what those people are, Robert - and they are con artists too.

The only way to change this is to create a political force strong enough to destroy them and the criminal system they have created - or, at least, to hold them in check so that we can undo some of the evil things they have done – and don’t count on mass-media to do that, either. The mass-media always cater to the top dog; were we ever to become the top dog, the mass-media would rediscover integrity of information.

Any attempt to reason with antismokers - or even to ask oneself why this nonsense is going on - is naive to say the least. Let's use that energy politically against them instead.

Thanks again for your contribution.

Regards,

Gian Turci
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