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Maifesto club thinkpiece smoking policy

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Maifesto club thinkpiece smoking policy

Postby gilster » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:31 am

http://www.manifestoclub.com/files/Cummings0907.pdf

Smoking Policies: A Civilized Approach
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Postby DancingTigerBait » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:42 am

Thanks, gilster. Interesting piece.

I notice that it is still heavy on compromise, which has proved to be ineffectual where smoking is concerned, and also contains a strong belief that smoking bans have something to do with cleaining the air. From the Manifesto Club Thinkpiece (p.9), "It is a good thing that we now enjoy a better quality of life,and part of this is not being involuntarily exposed to other people ’s smoke as we fly off on foreign holidays..." Yet, immediately following the complete smoking ban on airplanes, see The New York Times (June 6, 1993), "Frequent Fliers Saying Fresh Air Is Awfully Thin at 30,000 Feet" at http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... 958260&sec . Also see "Study claims aircraft air quality causes DVT" at http://news.cheapflights.co.uk/flights/ ... ms_ai.html . Also see the recent EPA report on how post-ban air tends to be very unhealthy--I didn't save the reference to this article and, evidently, nobody else did either, which is a shame.

The result is that this Manifesto piece sounds like people trying to rationalize a smoking ban that has caused serious problems in society in terms of economy and liberty. The most commendable thing about the piece is that it does encourage people to be courteous. The erosion of courtesy and friendliness in society has everything to do with how the banning mentality has grown.
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Postby Harlow » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:02 am

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/6/266

Here's a link to Boston's post ban air quality - all nice and wonderful quality air (probably because of lack of customers!)
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Postby DancingTigerBait » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:41 pm

Harlow wrote:http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/6/266

Here's a link to Boston's post ban air quality - all nice and wonderful quality air (probably because of lack of customers!)


And the lead author is...none other than Repace. You know, this is the man who made a fool out of himself going to wrok in a gas mask, right? And the same guy who published results from a study twice on the same day--with two different figures in the results! (See Bill Hannegan on the second one.) The same guy who said that hurricane force winds are necessary to get rid of tobacco smoke. Ever notice that smoke in a fireplace goes up the chimney without disturbing people in the same room...but tobacco smoke requires hurricane force winds. (And they call people who oppose bans "conspriacy theorists"? Good grief.) So, Harlow, I really doubt that the post-ban air is anywhere near as clean as this guy...erm, "reports".
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Postby Harlow » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:08 pm

I, too, doubt that his report is worth the paper it's written on and I'm sure his air quality was just in his own mind!
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