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  By James Leavey

James Leavey was one of the last journalists to interview The Who’s late, lamented bass and French horn player.

JL: When did you have your first cigarette?

JE: When I was about five years old. I was sitting in a working man’s club and everyone was smoking, except me of course, and every bit of smoke went right up my nose.  I put up with that until I was 21 years old, and then I thought, ‘Sod this.  I’m going to smoke right back at them.’ So I started smoking cigarettes.

JL:  Did you ever smoke cigars or a pipe?

JE: No. But I’ve smoked a lot of cigarettes that made me cough.  I’ve finally found a brand of cigarettes - in America – and I now go to the extent of buying ten cartons at a time.  It costs me about £30 a carton in Customs and Excise Duty just to bring them into this country (England).  But they don’t make a cough, and I feel fine now.  I have my lungs tested every so often and there’s no problem.

JL:  Did you smoke on stage when The Who first started?  Or did you smoke in the wings?

JE: I started smoking on stage when they told me I couldn’t.  I always thought, ‘Fuck you!  I’ll going do what I want.’  I’ve played in lots of non-smoking coliseums – but nobody has ever told me I couldn’t light up.

JL:  Is this still the case?

JE:  Yeah.  They take me into a non-smoking auditorium and I go into the dressing room, and there’s usually cigarette ash all over the place after I’ve been there.

JL: Is there a musician, alive or dead, you’d really like to share an ashtray with?

JE:  Oh God, let me think.  I really respect Joe Wash, and I’d like to share an ashtray with him, but he doesn’t smoke or anything.  Hardly anyone I know still smokes.

JL: Really?  Do you find that the current generation of musicians are not smoking?

JE: Yeah.  They’re all getting paranoiac about smoking. These people are also walking about in cities like Los Angeles and could get run over by a fucking motor car. When an atomic bomb goes off they’ll think, ‘Shit!  I wish I’d carried on smoking.’  A lot of members of my family have smoked, but none of my family has had cancer or anything like that.

JL: If the powers that be said that the area where you live is now a non-smoking zone, what would you do?

JE: Build a dome and live in it.  Nobody’s going to stop me fucking smoking.  When I’m in
Los Angeles I walk up and down the street smoking, rather than sit in a restaurant and get hassled.

JL: So what you do when you go to a fancy restaurant in America and have an expensive meal, and they tell you that you can’t light up?

JE: Leave. Fortunately, I’ve got some timeshares in a place in Mexico and nobody there tells you not to smoke.

JL:  Do you think smoking has made a positive contribution to your work as a musician?

JE:  No.  But lots of singers stop smoking because it makes them cough.  Fortunately, as I said, I’ve found a brand of cigarettes that don’t make me cough.

JL: Do you worry about the potentially harmful effects of smoking?

JE: No.

JL: Has there ever been a time in your life when you’ve lit up a cigarette and it’s just been that perfect moment?

JE: Yeah.  Three o’clock in the morning just after the girl walks out of my room into the rain.